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Reviewer: HillsHollow Signed [Report This]
Date: 04/27/2014 11:04 AM Title: Common Kirk Myths

Thank you. 

It’s nice to see someone challenging the Kirk ‘myths’. 

You managed to do it with not only cannon solid proof but with great intelligence and a well thought out arguments. 

I registered specifically because the comments on this got my attention. 

“The fact that his dad died doesn't mean that his mom was a wreck forever.”

That’s a very good point. 

It made me wonder if maybe the Davis family had a much heavier influence on a young reboots Jim Kirk’s world views vs the OTS Jim where the Kirk’s had more influence.  (I think it was the original motion picture for example where it was stated Grandpa Tiberius was the one that taught Jim to swear, ect.)

Being an old fan of some of the Star Trek books myself.  It might kind of fit that Reboot version of Jim might be a little more influenced by his Mother’s Lakota culture with his father gone and his Grandfather Jim Davis might have played a heavier role in his life. 

The Lakota have this concept of “Heyoka” or the Rebel spirit of questioning everything and doing things “In the Spirit of Crazy Horse”.  Not only that but by the seen change in Reboot Jim command style as well, reboot Jim is much more a consensus builder vs his OTS counterpart which would reflect a more tribal view of leadership as well. 

Reviewer: brown_polyester Signed starstarstarstarstar [Report This]
Date: 03/25/2011 5:43 PM Title: Common Kirk Myths

I forgot to add, in response to #3 (and the statement: "He ends the battle as soon as he can, and is compassionate with his defeated foes"), that even Reboot!Kirk shows that characteristic. After they've clearly defeated the bad guy, he offers to take them as prisoners instead of destroying them and their ship. Considering all that guy had done, that's a pretty magnanimous offer (of which Spock disapproves...). 

Author's Response:

Thank you for your comments.  It's true that Reboot!Kirk is not very different from classic Kirk.

Reviewer: brown_polyester Signed starstarstarstarstar [Report This]
Date: 03/25/2011 4:38 PM Title: Common Kirk Myths

I love you! I would be very interested to see a Reboot version of this essay. It seems as if a lot of new fans (Okay, I'm fairly new, but I am new because of TOS reruns, not because of ST:XI) take these myths and fanon ideas and accept them as established fact. Of course, Reboot!Kirk is a totally different person than TOS!Kirk because of their dissimilar backgrounds, but there are some innate characteristics that people have. The fact that his dad died doesn't mean that his mom was a wreck forever. Seriously, how many people don't deal and move on (at least to some extent) after 25 years? Sure, there's always going to be some sadness, but eventually it's outweighed by good memories and gratefulness for having known the person. I doubt that his mom's personality changed that much after the death of her husband, so he would've gotten a lot of guidance the same from her that TOS!Kirk did.

Anyway, maybe I should write that! I have a lot of pet peeves about the way these characters are treated in some ST:XI fics. New fans and ST:XI writers should be required to read this essay!

Author's Response:

Thank you so much.


Fans who just discovered K/S via the new Star Trek movie MUST acquaint themselves with the classic TOS Kirk/Spock - even if they care nothing for classic K/S fanfic.



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