Date: 06/29/2011 7:13 PM Title: Chapter 1
I disagree - it is not "without the sexual component" because the Mind is energy, and the exchange of energy between poles is what stands at the core of the term "sexual". Perhaps if we were to call it "Love of the Soul" instead of "Love of the Mind" it would better express what Plato tried to convey - that we create beauty out of what we perceive as "beyond" the material, and that it is not the material itself that attracts us (without the energy from "beyond", the material does not have shape or form and soon disbands - a very advanced scientific perception on Plato's part, which challenges our misconceptions about the ancestors being superstitious savages). However, it is fascinating to me the way people will hold on to the (questionable) idea that Plato introduced the non-sexual love concept - to me, this expresses a fundamental fear of the Ego mind, its need to set itself apart (which Plato might have appeared to support due to his being a "Mastermind", an individualized consciousness). Sexual love threatens to dismantle those boundaries, hence the resistance and labelling it as "common, ordinary, lower, base impulse" etc. But is that really the case? The Soul (Psyche), as stated, is that which joins the Ideals (Mind, Spirit) with the Body. What happens when all of us read these K/S stories? Is it not love of the Mind primarily? Yet, does nothing happen in terms of heart-rate, emotion, palm-tingling, beaming, squeeing, feeling good about oneself, etc? If the English, whom I respect, wish to see it as they do, they are of course allowed to. But that's not a good enough reason, only a cliché.
Date: 06/27/2011 9:05 PM Title: Chapter 1
Platonic means to love someone in such a pure way that they open up the World of Ideals for you. It doesn't mean "non-romantic" or "cold" or "non-sexual" since obviously Romance is about encompassing all the levels of love into one. Friend brother lover and all that. But Plato put the emphasis on the mind aspect - i.e. the ideas/patterns which stand beyond life and shape it accordingly. Therefore, if you love someone from within the Mind, you love their whole being, in Plato's conception, as the ideas shape everything in existence. When he used the word "Eros" it is best translated by Desire not "love", and Desire refers to an organizing principle of the Mind around its own center, leading to a structuring of the true Individual. Trying to separate these two, the Mind and Desire (Eros) would be foreign to Plato since he obviously went to such great lengths to write and teach about it. He believed that his times had become corrupted and could not see the essence of the Greek myths anymore - especially those about love between males - that is why he made certain distinctions between "good and bad" ways to interpret such a love to oneself. But that doesn't mean that he taught about a love that we see as restricted to a great friendship. (Explaining this to Spock, here :)
Platonic does indeed mean non-sexual. Platonic is to love someone without the sexual component of that love. While it may not have begun that way, however, that was the connotation (Love of the mind and not of the body), that is exactly what the word has come to mean in English as opposed to its meaning in Greek.
Date: 06/26/2011 7:55 PM Title: Chapter 1
AAAAAAAH! O_O Combining my long-term love of Charles/Erik with an only few-year-old obsession with Kirk/Spock. Now that we have the gorgeous McAvoy and Fassbender though? Woo.
Thank you for writing this. Sorry if that ^ isn't comprehensible. xD
Date: 06/26/2011 5:45 PM Title: Chapter 1
Oh, this story is awesome. I love the idea of the boys watching movies together and talking about them afterwards. And for it to be a slash couple? Too cool. The ending is sensational. I love the last line. You did a really great job with this story. I shall keep it and remind myself of it often. Thank you!
Date: 06/26/2011 11:15 AM Title: Chapter 1
Legendary! I nearly died when I watched that movie - so tragic and so much slash. Erik/Charles are my new slash addiction, though k/s is still my number 1. Loved it and I love Jim's reaction to the final scene. Can't think of a better movie to bring those two together.
(Is it sad to admit I read some erik/charles before the new movie?)
It's not sad at all, I was a shipper before the new movie, I think that's why I loved it so much. =D